Torah “experts” assert:
Deuteronomy 13: 1 If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a miraculous sign or wonder, 2 and if the sign or wonder of which he has spoken takes place, and he says, "Let us follow other gods" (gods you have not known) "and let us worship them," 3 you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul. 4 It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.
Christians and "Messianic Jews and Gentiles" worship Jesus as God; he is nothing but an idol! If Jesus, as he professes, is truly the son of the one God of Israel, then why would he only partially complete his task? Why didn't he fulfill ALL the OT prophecies like he was supposed to?
Until Jesus returns and fulfills all the remaining prophecies, he is nothing but a prophet who "produced great signs and wonders" in our midst. Beware, Hashem is "testing us"! If we are commanded to fear the Lord (Deuteronomy 6:13), anything less than a total fulfillment of prophecy will not suffice.
The Netzarim Response:
You're right: Christians have their own "god" going. They've effectively taken the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and put him in a box, decided that the Son has replaced the Father, and changed the dates of His birth, death and resurrection and come up with their own "holy days" of Christmas and Easter....
And so we're not addressing what Christians believe, as they are hooked on the many mis-translations and misunderstandings of the writings of Rav Shaul who they seem to believe over and above the things Yeshua actually taught.
Our responses are coming from the Netzarim perspective - those who knew the Torah observant Yeshua and obeyed YHWH!
Having said that, some of the prophecies the prophets of old (Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc.) did not come true while they were alive - and some of the events have not come true yet.
Yet the rabbinic types still believe Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc. are still True Prophets of G-d. Some of the same rabbis know Gog-Magog war is soon to take place so Ezekiel's prophecies did not all occur when he was alive. This shows the rabbis who hold to the above statement are hypocrites and that the above argument by unbelieving rabbis against Yeshua is ludicrous.
Furthermore, the "Old Testament" (Tanach) assures us that God DOES have a "son" and that that "son" shall be called "ADONAI Our Righteousness". In "Old Testament" times, God spoke through Himself, dreams, visions, and the prophets.
Today, He speaks through His Son - through Whom He also made the world (John 1:3, 10; I Cor. 8:6; Eph. 3:9; Col. 1:16; Heb. 1:2):
Proverbs 30:4 - Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has cupped the wind in the palms of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son's name? Surely you know!
Hebrews 1: 2 But now, in the acharit-hayamin (these last days) he has spoken to us through his Son, to whom he has given ownershp of everything and through whom he created the universe. 3 This Son is the radiance of the Sh'khinah (Spirit), the very expression God's essence, upholding all that exists by his powerful word; and after he had HaG'dulah BaM'romim (the Majesty on High).
Micah 5:2 - But you, Beit-Lechem near Efrat, so small among the clans of Y'hudah, out of you will come forth to me the future ruler of Isra'el, whose origins are far in the past, back in ancient times.
Jeremiah 23: 5 "The days are coming," says ADONAI when I will raise a righteous Branch for David. He will reign as king and succeed, he will do what is just and right in the land. 6 In his days Y'hudah will be saved, Isra'el will live in safety, and the name given to him will be ADONAI TZIDKENU [ADONAI our righteousness].
Question 1: How many "signs and wonders" can one person perform - especially some really extraordinary ones such as raising people from the dead and walking on water - before someone realizes something truly supernatural is happening?
Question 2: Exactly where in the Bible are we told that Messiah would fulfill all the prophecies at once, and/or in his lifetime? Where does the Bible give us a timeframe for all the prophecies to be fulfilled?
Question 3: Does the "Old Testament" - specifically Psalm 110 - tell us that Moses or any of the prophets are sitting "at the right hand of God"? The prophets of old might have been good men, but they - like ALL humans - sinned and disobeyed God.
So, if Moses, a sinner, isn't sitting "at the right hand of God", who is?
As usual, the "learned rabbis" are putting God in a box and are insisting on understanding Him through their limited, human mindsets. Psalm 90:4 tells us that a "thousand years is like a day" in the eyes of the Lord. In other words, time as we know it, means nothing to Him. So, what makes you think God is working within YOUR idea of a timeframe when it comes to the prophecies?
Think about this fact: God said that the Jews would be a "light to the nations" (Isaiah 42:5-8). How would we have been that "light" without Yeshua, without all the controversy surrounding Him, and all the subsequent "religions" that originated because of Him? Without Him, Judaism would have been kept a huge, insignificant secret, confined to tiny Israel! Because of Yeshua - God's promised New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31-34) - the entire world eventually heard about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob!
Matthew 28:18 Yeshua came and talked with them. He said, "All authority in heaven and one earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore, go and make people from all nations into talmidim (disciples), immersing them into the reality of the Father, the Son, and the Ruach HaKodesh (Holy Spirit), 20 and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember! I will be with you always, yes, even until the end of the age."
Unlike any other "rabbi" who ever lived, Yeshua spoke with authority!
The rabbis of old would always refer to Torah, but Yeshua dared to say, "I say unto you..." What made Him different from all the others? Different enough for the rabbis to want Him completely out of the way? Different enough for them to eventually have the Roman soldiers nail him to the cross?
He taught God's Word properly, removing all the "rabbinic" bondage that the rabbis of the day had inserted into their teachings! He performed miracles beyond comprehension, including raising people from the dead, casting out demons, curing lepers, allowing the blind to see, the lame to walk, and the deaf to hear! The Tanach told us this would happen:
Isaiah 35: 5 Then the eyes of the blind will be opened, and the ears of the deaf will be unstopped; then the lame man shall leap like a deer, and the mute person's tongue will sing....
What other Jewish rabbi has ever accomplished these things? Did Rabbi Menachim Schneerson (whose coffin many Jews are still watching in case he ever rises from the dead) do any of these things?
Granted, Yeshua and all His miracles mean nothing, unless one "believes" that the "New Testament" is true. So, let's step back into the "Old Testament" - TANACH! - for a moment to show how it foreshadowed what was to become part of the "New Testament"....
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore ADONAI himself will give you people a sign; the young woman will become pregnant, bear a son and name him 'Immanu El [God is with us].
(The word "Immanu El" is repeated in Isaiah 8:8.) (Jewish anti-missionaries will argue to the death about the word "alma" NOT meaning "virgin".
Isaiah 9: 6 For a child is born to us, a son is given to us; dominion will rest on his shoulders, and he will be given the name Pele-Yo'etz El Gibbor Avi'Ad Sar-Shalom [Wonder of a Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace], 7 in order to extend the dominion and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David, to secure it and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever. The zeal of ADONAI-Tva'ot will accomplish this.
When YHWH gave us His New Covenant, as seen in the Brit Chadasha (Renewed Covenant), YHWH's Son was physically walking among us! (Yeshua was human with a divine qnoma [nature] sent by YHWH Himself and he did everything His Father commanded - see Luke 4:43, Luke 8:1, Acts 28:23 and Acts 24:14!)
If YHWH can speak through a burning bush or a donkey, or reveal Himself as a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night, WHY wouldn't He be capable of sending a Divine Messiah in the form of His own "Son"?
Lest we forget, Yeshua fulfilled the prophecy of the Tzit-Tzit and the healing he has in his wings:
Malachi 4:2 - But to you who fear my name the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its wings...."
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