Tuesday, October 15, 2019

Reader wants to know how to respond to “the law was done away with”….


So, I have heard people say that since the Veil in the temple was torn when Jesus died - this means the Law was done away with.

What is the best answer to this?


The best reply would be something like this:

First of all, the word was always "Torah" and not "law". Torah consists of God's Divine Instructions in Righteousness, without which we would have NO blueprint for moral, holy living. WHY would "Jesus" (whose given name was Yeshua (which means "YHWH is Salvation" in Hebrew) have come to abolish his own Divine Instructions?

Secondly, the death of Yeshua abolished NOTHING except the need to sacrifice innocent animals to atone for our sins. If you'll read the entire Bible from cover to cover, you will discover that truth…

And if that doesn't work, Jeanie, tell them to answer the questions on our Christian Questionnaire.

Hope this helps!

Monday, October 14, 2019

Reader questions the titles of “God” and “Lord”, etc.


I've often had this battle:

if/when I concede to use the terms God/Jesus for these reasons (while speaking to Christian friends), they claim that "it's the same God".'

My hang up with that is, is God double minded? Is he wrong? Because Christians who call Him God, Lord, and Jesus say that God basically abolished Torah. Its OK to eat pork, observe Christmas, etc etc etc. And the Greco-Roman understanding of God continues on.

This is a strange God to me, because Yahweh is not like this. The relationship and understanding between us and the Creator (Torah) is different than theirs.

What happens is: they say "its the same God, we just love Him differently". Well, is it ok to stay outside of a Torah-observant lifestyle?

All constructive replies are greatly appreciated


Thanks for your question.  You're right - once we KNOW the "Sacred Names", we should use them and definitely teach them to others. What I'm always trying to get through to people, though, is that so many Hebrew Roots (HR) types get downright MEAN about it, acting like a bunch of know-it-all, holier-than-thou Schmucks - which turns people OFF. And when people are turned off, you've lost what YHWH wants us to do, which defeats the whole purpose!

The thing is - God, Lord, etc. are just TITLES we use in the language we speak. WHY would that be "pagan" as so many HR types insist?

There's nothing wrong with using the TITLES in our OWN language. Unless we were born into a Hebrew speaking household, none of us popped out of the womb speaking Hebrew! So, why - when people find their way to Torah - is everything suddenly "PAGAN"?

While Christianity is very much OFF the mark on several levels, the fact remains, they ARE referring to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! They're NOT referring to Buddha or Krishna or some "sacred cow" in Hinduism. They believe in YHWH and the Divine Messiah He sent!

Unfortunately, Gentiles have skewed His Word and ignored and picked and chosen and "read into" Scripture things that aren't there and consequently, we have something like 50,000 different "denominations" - each one claiming to be THE right one.... THAT is what we are supposed to be trying to get them past.

But since most HR types are such raving lunatics, expecting anyone they talk to, to "do an immediate 180" just because they (the exalted HR self-proclaimed "teachers") tell them to, they tend to LOSE people, thus defeating the purpose.

The Hebrew Roots "movement" - with its myriad "denominations" and false teachers and weirdos verbally beating the stuffins out of everyone who doesn't agree with THEIR exalted use, ideas, or spellings of the transliteration of the "Sacred Names" - is its own worst enemy.

In all honesty - many who are out there yelling the loudest, seemed to have learned from total morons who got their initial intro to HR from somebody on Facebook where EVERYBODY who's been in Torah for 5 minutes believes themselves to be a Hebrew and Bible "expert"....

And yes, "Jesus" wasn't Messiah's name. It's simply the "translated" version, as my husband explains in our blog article, which I hope you'll take a couple minutes to read it, because most don't bother, and continue to ask and challenge ad nauseam.

Sunday, October 13, 2019

Wisdom from Timothy about the term “Fear of ELOHIM”…

1 Timothy 6:3. But if there be anyone, who teaches a different doctrine and does not agree to the foundational Words of our Master Y’shua the Mashiyach and to the doctrine of the Fear of Elohim,[1] 4. he is one that exalts himself while he knows nothing; and he languishes in the search and inquiry about words from which come envy and contention and railing and evil suspicions 5. and the constant arguing of men whose minds are corrupt and devoid of the truth, and who suppose that gain is without Elohim. But from these stand away.

6. But great is our gain which is the Fear of Elohim, with the use of our competence. 7. For we brought nothing into the world; and we know that we can carry nothing out of it. 8. Therefore, food and clothing satisfy us. 9. But they who desire to become rich fall into temptations and into snares and into many lusts which are foolish and hurtful and which drown men in destruction and perdition: 10. for the love of money is the root of all these evils. And there are some who, coveting it, have erred from the faith and brought themselves into many sorrows. (AENT)


Isaiah 11:2-3 “And the Spirit of YHWH shall rest upon him, the Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding, the Spirit of Counsel and Might, the Spirit of Knowledge and of the Yirah (Fear) of YHWH; And shall make him of quick understanding in the Yirah (Fear) of YHWH:” A picture of the Menorah is seen here with its seven branches. The center is the Spirit of YHWH while the six other attributes are joined into the center pillar. These seven Spirits also signify perfection or completeness.

The Fear of YHWH Elohim is a “Spirit” of YHWH; it is a vital spiritual quality for Life in Mashiyach. The Fear of YHWH is a personal guide; Hebrew yirah means fear, as in fear/awesome/terrifying contrary to Christian teaching that the Fear of YHWH is not really “fear” but love and respect.

Isaiah 29:13 reveals how “the Fear of YHWH is taught by the commandment of men”; in other words, man’s religious theology and tradition has made void the Fear of YHWH.

Unfortunately, many Christians prefer the term “reverence” over “fear”; Christians also use a title of “Reverend” for their clergymen and ministers; therefore, the term “Fear of YHWH” was first negated and then given a theological/semantic twist to apply to their own leadership, as in the case of “reverend.”

The Fear of YHWH is noted throughout Scripture; B’resheet/Genesis 20:11; 42:18; Shemot/Exodus 9:30; 18:21; Vayikra/Leviticus 25:17; D’varim/Deuteronomy 10:12 and in more than a hundred places. Without the Spirit of the Fear of YHWH, people will fear man, materialism, relativism and all form of idols, including their religious leaders.

Sunday, October 6, 2019

You’re no longer a “gentile” if you believe in YHWH

For those who are new to the concept of "Torah" (the first five Books of the Bible that contain all of ADONAI's original teachings and commands), did you know that you no longer need to call yourself a "gentile"?

The word "gentile" in the Bible has always had a negative connotation representing the pagans - those who worshiped "other gods."

But, here's the thing: In Genesis 12, we see a pagan Chaldean named Avram, being chosen by YHWH to ultimately become "the father of many great nations!" (Remember, people early on in the Bible didn't really have any labels, and there were no Jews at the time. But YHWH chose to initiate His grand Plans with Avram, who accepted Him as his God.)

Genesis 12:1 Now Adonai said to Avram, “Get yourself out of your country, away from your kinsmen and away from your father’s house, and go to the land that I will show you. 2 I will make of you a great nation, I will bless you, and I will make your name great; and you are to be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, but I will curse anyone who curses you; and by you all the families of the earth will be blessed.” 4 So Avram went, as Adonai had said to him, and Lot went with him. Avram was 75 years old when he left Haran. (CJB)

NOTE that YHWH told Avram to get AWAY from everyone and everything he knew. Why? Because, in order to affect change, it is necessary get away from any "old" influences and old habits, and leave ALL your "baggage" behind....

Now, watch this!

Genesis 14:13 Someone who had escaped came and told Avram the Hebrew, who was living by the oaks of Mamre the Emori, brother of Eshkol and brother of ‘Aner; all of them allies of Avram.

Did you notice that? We now suddenly discover that Avram is referred to as a HEBREW – a term that means "to cross over" … which is what Avram did, both spiritually and physically.

What does this mean? Well, Avram accepted YHWH as his God and thus, "crossed over" both "spiritually" and also physically into the land God told him to go to. Avram chose to OBEY ADONAI. Was he perfect? NO! Nobody is. But he certainly made every effort to BE the man YHWH chose him to become, once YHWH had turned Avram's entire life upside-down..

And BECAUSE of Avraham's obedience, this happened:

Genesis 17:When Avram was 99 years old Adonai appeared to Avram and said to him, “I am El Shaddai [God Almighty]. Walk in my presence and be pure-hearted. 2 I will make my covenant between me and you, and I will increase your numbers greatly.” 3 Avram fell on his face, and God continued speaking with him:

4 “As for me, this is my covenant with you: you will be the father of many nations. 5 Your name will no longer be Avram [exalted father], but your name will be Avraham [father of many], because I have made you the father of many nations. 6 I will cause you to be very fruitful. I will make nations of you, kings will descend from you.

7 “I am establishing my covenant between me and you, along with your descendants after you, generation after generation, as an everlasting covenant, to be God for you and for your descendants after you. 8 I will give you and your descendants after you the land in which you are now foreigners, all the land of Kena‘an, as a permanent possession; and I will be their God.”

9 God said to Avraham, “As for you, you are to keep my covenant, you and your descendants after you, generation after generation. (CJB)

So, what did we learn here? Well, once we accept the truth of YHWH/Yeshua/Torah, we are no longer Gentiles or Christians, really (as Christianity is missing some very important aspects of YHWH's teachings). But we CAN refer to ourselves as "Hebrews" if we wish ... because we've "crossed over."

What we've learned here is that (1) YHWH chooses whomever He wishes; and that (2) He does give us the choice to accept or reject Him; and (3) that, if we accept Him, he constantly moves us - HIS people - to the next level.

Did you know that he wasn't "sacrificed"? But, here is his connection to Passover….

For those who keep referring to Yeshua as YHWH's "sacrifice" - did you know that he wasn't "sacrificed"? That’s because ADONAI never demanded human sacrifice.

(Yes, Abraham had Isaac gather firewood and lay down on the altar to be sacrificed, according to ADONAI’s command; but, as revealed later, it was simply a test for Abraham to examine himself on whether he was willing or unwilling to follow YHWH, no matter what (Genesis 22:2). We all know how the story ended – YHWH provided a ram, just in the nick of time.)

But, back to Yeshua, who was never meant to be a “sacrifice”. Here's why:

Because (1) God didn’t tell anyone to “sacrifice” him; (2) nobody was told to spread his blood on the doorposts of their houses; and (3) the Pesach lambs weren't "sacrifices"! (Remember, Yeshua was our "Passover Lamb"...but that title also needs more explanantion. Read on.)

(NOTE: In Exodus 12:6 the lambs are to be "slaughtered" [or "killed" depending on the version], while in Exodus 12:26-27, the act is said to be "the sacrifice of Adonai's Pesach". The fact is that it was NOT a sacrifice, since the lambs were not taken to the Temple [there was no temple!], and that the same word, "zeh-bakh" means "slaughter" or "offering" or "sacrifice" depending on the context. Only the ISR for Exodus 26:27 reads "It is the Passover slaughtering of יהוה,", rendering "zeh-bakh" properly.)

So, that is why Yeshua wasn’t exactly a "Passover Lamb”…

The simple Truth is, Yeshua martyred himself, thus redeeming us by voluntarily shedding his divine blood; and, in doing so, he redeemed us for our past sins (“our” referring to those who accepted YHWH [the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob] as their ELOHIM, and recognized that Yeshua was His Divine Messiah who martyred himself on our behalf).

If you’ll recall, YHWH always demanded blood sacrifices as a substitution/redemption for our lives, as you can see fully explained in our blog (https://blog.therefinersfire.org/…/what-sins-did-jesus-die-…). The bottom line of the article is that one’s salvation always required that blood substitution or redemption of one nephesh (soul) for another.

The possibility of that substitution of an animal at the Temple is gone; it has been replaced by your acceptance that the Messiah died for you, and redeemed you, so you can receive eternal life.

Yeshua volunteered to substitute His nephesh for yours, and yet, today, many reject the offer. Yeshua, sinless, MARTYRED himself, offering His blood for yours, against which there is NO Torah prohibition!

Some are claiming that Yeshua changed the meaning of Pesach - perhaps, because of the following verses:

1 Corinthians 5:7. Purge out from you the old leaven,[1] that you may be a new mass, as you are unleavened. For our Passover is the Mashiyach, who was slain for us. 8. Therefore let us celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, nor with the leaven of wickedness and bitterness, but with the leaven of purity and sanctity. (AENT)

NOTE: The word for “leaven” here in Hebrew is chometz. Therefore, Rav Shaul is teaching the Corinthians by using Passover imagery, by commanding them to purge the chometz from the house of their hearts, so that they can be sanctified. Of course, the rest of this verse and the next one prove this interpretation!

Notice also that this is Paul writing, not Yeshua speaking - and Paul is clearly relating the shed redeeming blood of the Messiah to that of the redeeming blood of the lamb at Pesach. But neither Paul, nor Yeshua “changed” the meaning of Pesach! Pesach in Paul’s time (and in Yeshua’s time) was celebrated in the same manner and for the same purpose as all of Judaism!

The claim might also have come from Luke 22:19-20 which reads: “Also, taking a piece of matzah, he made the b'rakhah, broke it, gave it to them and said, ‘This is my body, which is being given for you; do this in memory of me.’ He did the same with the cup after the meal, saying, ‘This cup is the New Covenant, ratified by my blood, which is being poured out for you.’” (CJB).

So, for those who believe “Jesus changed” the meaning of Pesach, please know that, that is simply not the case! Yeshua only expressed the remembrance of what He was about to do for the apostles and all mankind; that the life and redemption of the original pass-over for the Hebrews would forever be given to them by His redemptive blood. This in no way “changed” Pesach!

Let’s consider some parallels where we can see that the meaning of Pesach was in NO WAY changed:

1. At the original and only “pass-over” the blood of an unblemished lamb redeemed the firstborn of the Hebrews. Jesus is recognized as our “unblemished lamb” whose blood redeemed us. (1 Peter 2:22; 1 John 3:5).

2. Jesus was killed the same afternoon as the lambs.

3. The sacrificed lamb “spared” the Hebrews (Exodus 12:27). Jesus’ (volunteer) substitution of Himself delivered mankind from bondage to sin and death (Romans 8:2).

4. The bones of the lamb were not broken. (Exodus 12:46). None of Jesus’ bones were broken. (John 19:33).

5. The lamb spared the firstborn from death, the consequence had the Hebrews sinned and not obeyed. (Exodus 12:12). Jesus spares from eternal death those who accept His redemption. (Leviticus 17:11, Revelation 1:5).

6. Even the disciples of Jesus recognized that Jesus changed nothing about Pesach but only provided for their redemption. They continued to celebrate Pesach but with the renewed “life” in the remembrance that now, they too, were saved as were the Hebrews in the one-and-only pass-over. “So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.” (1 Corinthians 5:8).

7. As with all the Pesach lambs, Yeshua was not “sacrificed” at the Temple, either!

As you surely know, Passover/Unleavened Bread/Hag HaMatzot celebrates the deliverance of the slaves from Egypt. It is the story of redemption by the killing of the Passover Lamb, the blood of which was applied to the doorposts while the Israelites were still in Egypt, shortly before their Exodus.

Obedience to the command to take a lamb into their homes for a few days and then kill it for the purpose of spreading its blood on the doorposts ensured that their firstborn would be spared the Tenth Curse against Pharaoh who refused to let God's enslaved Chosen People leave Egypt.

When the Angel of Death passed through the land and saw the blood, he "passed over" those houses and spared the first born within (Exodus 12:1-13). The annual remembrance and celebration of Passover not only serves as a reminder of the events leading up to the Exodus from Egypt; but it is also the story of redemption through Messiah Yeshua, whose shed blood on the cross/stake freed Believers from the slavery of earthly bondage to “the world!”

In other words, Yeshua fulfilled this event when he was crucified.

And that is the whole connection: Yeshua was our substitute, our redemption - and by believing and always following YHWH's Torah to help us remain holy and sin-free, we have the chance for eternal life!

Friday, October 4, 2019

A word about vaping, smoking and the “stupidity” epidemic in America….

I never cease to be amazed over the lack common sense in America. This "vaping" problem we're experiencing where people are literally DYING from whatever toxin they're sucking into their lungs, is being marginalized not only by the vaping industry (which has fought and won the first battle to block a BAN on e-cigs), but also by people who smoke or vape...

After all - gosh, golly, gee - people "have a RIGHT to smoke and vape" ... and to kill themselves with whatever method they choose, while blaming everyone but themselves, and then suing the company that makes the thing that made them sick....

That's Americans for ya! I remember, the same thing happening in the Eighties with the HIV/AIDS epidemic. Doctors were reporting that "unsafe" sexual practices were the crux of the epidemic, and were consequently trying to warn people to NOT engage in "unprotected sex."

I remember discussing this issue with my then-co-workers in the Public Affairs Office of the United States Army Criminal Investigation Command where - as was always the case in every public relations office I've ever worked in - I was the ONLY Republican conservative, and ended up being the "butt of their jokes" with my "old-fashioned" ideas......

Anyway, my suggestion that the ONLY way to stop the HIV epidemic would be for people to STOP the promiscuity and stick with only one sex partner, was met with icy stares, chuckles and rebukes that made it plain that people "like me" shouldn't impose their prudish ways on "modern society" where people had an unimpeded "right" to choose their next, random sex partner.

Even though I wasn't a true Believer back then, I DID have plenty of common sense (that I now know, lined up with Scripture, even though I didn't realize it back then). Unfortunately, common sense hasn't been popular in America over the last two centuries, and I'm obviously in the minority..
Why can't anybody see that "liberal ideas" and mindsets are THE reason why we're experiencing an "epidemic of chaos" in just about all facets of our lives today. People smoke too much, drink too much, do drugs too much, fumigate their gardens without bothering to don face masks, etc. - and then, when they end up with cancer or another killer disease, they sue the people who made the products which made them sick....

America has become SO lacking in common sense that one has to wonder whether to laugh or cry.

Regardless, I'm going to once again stick my neck out and suggest that ALL vaping devices and their nasty perfume chemicals should be banned. Period. They are SICKENING to even be around!

My husband and I were at a neighbor's house party a couple years ago, where some teenage girl was puffing on a vape device outside on the porch. Of course, the "smoke" from that thing permeated EVERYTHING and gave me an instant migraine, and we had to leave thanks to the nasty, perfumy chemicals. There was no use in trying to ask her to stop because - well, after all, she "had a right" to vape (just like the cigarette smokers "had a right to smoke" on the porch - and the owners of the house allowed it.

What people have never seemed to realize is that THEIR nasty habits can affect everyone around them. And, say what you like, but that's NOT fair! Perhaps the answer is for ALL of us to lose our common sense and for the non-vapers and non-smokers to start suing those who do "for ruining our quality of life" because THEIR bad habits are making US sick....

What a ridiculous world this has become.

Wednesday, October 2, 2019

Response to yet another Jesus-rejecter...

Chaz Miller (the author of the lies in this screen shot) is clearly smitten with the rabbi’s explanations and he is blind to the essence of "forgiveness" vs "afterlife". 

Okay, this is going to be long, for there is no true, easy explanation.

There are two issues here.
  First is the forgiveness of sins during our earthly life, and the second is eternal life after death.  Miller seems convinced that forgiveness of sins automatically includes eternal life with Hashem.  But with or without the Temple, we all have access to forgiveness of our unintentional sins during our earthly lives by repentance and returning our hearts to Hashem.  So, there is more here than he realizes.

Miller is plain wrong to make his assumption that his sins are [automatically] forgiven and that he is therefore "saved" like Daniel who could not offer sacrifices at the Temple.  Daniel was in Babylon, and the several kings he lived under demanded that people of the kingdom worship the king.  But Daniel did not.  Daniel continued to live by the Word, and only worshiped Hashem.  That contributed to Daniel's righteousness.

Daniel – who was TRULY righteous, and “favored by Hashem” -  was not able to bring sacrifices because (1) he was not in Jerusalem; and (2) the Temple was destroyed during his lifetime.    (Daniel was 3 times called "a man greatly loved" by Hashem! - Daniel 9:23, 10:11 and 19).  Not many of us can make that claim!

Further, Hashem made it clear that He does NOT "automatically" forgive sin, or offer eternal life to an unrepentant sinner! In Ezekiel 14 we read that Israel had (once again) separated themselves from Hashem, completely turning from Torah.  Hashem says he would destroy animals and people alike as a result (vs 13), but that "even if these three men were in it [living at that time] — Noach, Dani'el and Iyov (Job) — they would, by their righteousness, save only themselves" (vs 14). 

So, if Mr. Miller thinks he is going to be saved just because "all my sins are forgiven by Hashem," he has a rude awakening ahead; for we are told that humans DIE when they sin:

Ezekiel 18:4 "All lives [nephesh] are Mine; the life [nephesh] of the parent and the life [nephesh] of the child are both Mine. The person [nephesh] who sins, only he shall die." (JPS Tanakh; I have inserted "nephesh" where it appears in the original Hebrew.)

So, recognizing that Mr. Miller is NOT Daniel, how do we obtain eternal life without the Temple sacrifices? How does our nephesh, which belongs to Hashem (Ezekiel 18:4), join Him when our earthly bodies die?  Well, first, we live our lives righteously (or as righteously as we can).  Since we are not perfect, we will sin from time to time.

But we can return to righteousness by our repentance and returning to a conscious obedience to Torah.  Our purpose in life is to live for Hashem and be obedient (Ecclesiastes 12:13). Being "righteous" alone, however, is not enough for the nephesh to be "saved"; that is, for our soul [nephesh] to be with Hashem when we die.  

Being "saved" requires, in addition to living righteously, the substitution on the altar - a "redemption" if you will - of a nephesh for your nephesh.  This was ALWAYS required, and with or without the temple, it is still required.  Most people don't understand this. 

"For the life [nephesh] of the flesh is in the blood, and I have assigned it to you for making expiation for your lives upon the altar; it is the blood, as life [nephesh], that effects expiation." (Leviticus 17:11, JPS Tanakh). 

Most Jewish rabbis dismiss this verse as only addressing individual sins or only condemning the consumption of blood; sins which can be atoned for by other means; thus, they dismiss that the expiation of sin by blood is required.

So… the Jewish rabbis miss the point.  Annually at Yom Kippur, at the Temple, the people were both atoned for in their earthly lives (the goat released to Azazel, Leviticus 16:21), and they were purified, "ta'her" (meaning "sound, unadulterated, pure) for their everlasting life. In other words, they were redeemed. This is different from being "forgiven". 

Redemption is required to be in the presence of Hashem and redemption is by blood - one nephesh for another. 

Note verse 30: "For on this day shall atonement be made for you, to cleanse you; from all your sins shall ye be clean before the LORD" (JPS Tanakh).  See the words "ye shall be clean before the LORD"? …

No one unclean can appear before Hashem, so this is a redemption - a price was paid (one nephesh) for the sinner's nephesh to enable them to appear before Hashem.  Thus, every year, the people were redeemed; and should they then die that year (provided they did not intentionally sin) that is, they remained righteous, their place in the Kingdom of YHWH was assured.

So, what about Daniel, and everyone else, who couldn’t obtain their eternal life at Yom Kippur because there was no Temple?  Perhaps there was a Temple and they simply could not get to it at Yom Kippur! So, were they not "saved"?  That's the real question and the only answer is that it was all up to Hashem and no one else.

Here, Mr. Miller will poo-poo the response because he will likely disagree with how one obtains eternal life. You see, the rabbis actually never explain "eternal life"; rather, they argue that "all you have to do is repent and do teshuva" – and, of course, the Mr. Millers of this world WANT it to be that easy!  Nevertheless, the response is this:

Even Daniel knew there was an eternal life.  Some would receive it while others would not (Daniel 12:1-2).  So those who have died but have not been redeemed, MUST be given the opportunity to be redeemed or they (i.e., their nephesh) simply can't appear before Hashem.  Since YHWH tells us that He is our redeemer (Isaiah 60:16, for example), and we are to be in His presence, how are we redeemed?

Daniel, who was favored by Hashem (see above), probably was simply accepted on his righteousness alone - we don't know! But we do know that it is up to Hashem as He shows favor to whomever He chooses; and it's not our choice (Exodus 33:19).  Since none of us were Daniel, Noah, or Job, how would we have been redeemed “back then”?

Well, the New Testament (which the Millers of the world dismiss) tells us that Hashem, once and for all sent the Messiah so HE (Hashem) could be our redeemer as He promised (see again Isaiah 60:16).  And since the redeeming Messiah (who was the Word – John 1:1, 14 – and the “Arm of YHWH” – Isiah 53:1, and thus always a part of YHWH) has always been, and always will be with Hashem, even those who were not redeemed at Yom Kippur (while there was an earthly Temple), WILL HAVE the opportunity to accept and receive the redemption of the Messiah when they (i.e., their nephesh), appears before YHWH. 

To put it plain English, their salvation is retroactive!

In closing, we strongly suggest that the Chaz Millers of the world read again Daniel 12:2 and reconsider their choice!