Challenging a Christian woman who bashes Torah observance and insists Christmas can be found in Scripture

I recently discovered a woman on Facebook bashing Torah observance while insisting Christmas could be found “throughout the Bible”….

Below are my responses to this nonsense.  For the sake of space, I have simply separated her rant into numbered paragraphs:

NUMBER ONE:

She wrote:

It never ceases to amaze me how some people who call themselves “Torah Keepers” bashes Christians because of their spiritual walk. These people think they are so righteous because they keep the Old Covenant Feast Days and Shabbats. While they talk about the ‘speck’ in the Christian eyes, they have a ‘log’ in their own eyes.

MY RESPONSE:

Since when is it “bashing” when you lead people to God’s WHOLE Truth?  Scripture is clear that ALL who accept YHWH as their God are to do exactly as HIS people do.  (See Exodus 12:49, Numbers 15:13-16, Isaiah 56:6, and Romans 10:12-13 which all confirm our need for Torah.)  Let’s take a look at Numbers 15:13-16 wherein ADONAI said it FOUR TIMES in a row that ALL who accept Him are to do exactly as HIS people do:

Numbers 15: 13 "'Every citizen is to do these things in this way when presenting an offering made by fire as a fragrant aroma for ADONAI. 14 If a foreigner stays with you - or whoever may be with you, through all your generations - and he wants to bring an offering made by fire as a fragrant aroma for ADONAI, he is to do the same as you. 15 For this community there will be the same law for you as for the foreigner living with you; this is a permanent regulation through all your generations; the foreigner is to be treated the same way before ADONAI as yourselves. 16 The same Torah and standard of judgment will apply to both you and the foreigner living with you.'" (CJB)

Please re-read the above in case you missed it: Any Torah-less non-Jew/Hebrew/Israelite who does not yet believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is an "alien"/foreigner. However, if they do wish to accept Him, then they are to do exactly as those who are already belong to Him!

"Living among" means not necessarily physically, but rather, it refers to all those who have accepted the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. They MUST be Torah observant, just like the Houses of Israel and Judah were with whom God made His New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:32)!

Romans 10: 12. And in this, it discriminates neither Jews nor Gentiles. For there is one, Master YHWH, over them all, who is abundantly generous towards every one that calls on him. 13. For everyone that will call on the name of Master YHWH, will have life.

NUMBER TWO:

In fact, the Eternal Father hated and despised their Feast Days, burnt offerings, meat offerings, and peace offerings {Amos 5:21,22; Isaiah 1:11}. He stated He would put an 'END' to it ALL and make a NEW COVENANT with Israel and Judah (the Jews)...of which He did {Jeremiah 31:31}. He stated that, "I will stop all her celebrations: her YEARLY FESTIVALS, her New Moons, her SABBATH DAYS--all her appointed festivals" {Hosea 2:11}.

MY RESPONSE:

First of all, I don’t understand WHY this woman refers to YHWH’s Feast Days as “THEIR FEAST DAYS,” as if it doesn’t pertain to her or anyone but "the Jews" (whom she clearly seems to hate, as she continues throughout to spew the term "the Jews” as if it's a dirty word).

Perhaps she doesn’t realize that Christianity originated in Judaism.  OR perhaps she doesn't realize that “Jesus” didn’t come to bring any religion called “Christianity”…. He came to proclaim the Kingdom and do everything HIS FATHER commanded.  Don’t take my word for it – look at what the Bible says:

Luke 4: 43 "But he (Yeshua/Jesus) said, "I must preach the good news of the Kingdom of God to the other towns also, because that is why I was sent."

Luke 8: 1. And it happened after these things that Y'shua was going around in the cities and in the villages and was preaching and declaring the Kingdom of Elohim.

Acts 28: 23 "From morning till evening the Apostle Paul explained and declared the Kingdom of God and tried to convince people about Yeshua from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets."

Acts 24: 14. But this indeed I (Paul) acknowledge, that in that same doctrine of which they speak, I do serve the Elohim of my fathers, believing all the things written in Torah and in the prophets.

Secondly, she proudly presents scriptures that supposedly show YHWH putting an END to His COMMANDED Mo’edim!  WHY would He do that, when each one is significant in the grand scheme of things?  All the scriptures she presented, when READ IN CONTEXT, reveal that He wasn’t abolishing His Mo’edim; He was angry with His people for constantly straying and doing His festivals NOT because they loved Him, but out of mere obligation….
 
NUMBER THREE:

He condemned their Holy Festivals {Hosea 9:4,5} because He found fault with the way they were doing things and made a New Covenant {Hebrews 8:8}. "Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah (the Jews): NOT ACCORDING to the Covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt..." {Jeremiah 31:31,32}.

MY RESPONSE:

Yes, let’s do take a look at Hebrews 8:8 and Jeremiah 31:31,32 – both of which say, “…‘See! The days are coming,’ says ADONAI, ‘when I will establish over the house of Isra’el and over the house of Y’hudah a new covenant.”  (CJB)

Jeremiah 31: 31 "Here, the days are coming," says ADONAI, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Isra'el and with the house of Y'hudah. 32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers on the day I took them by their hand and brought them out of the land of Egypt; because they, for their part, violated my covenant, even though I, for my part, was a husband to them," says ADONAI.

33 "For this is the covenant I will make with the house of Isra'el after those days," says ADONAI: "I will put my Torah within them and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people. 34 No longer will any of them teach his fellow community member or his brother, 'Know ADONAI'; for all will know me, from the least of them to the greatest; because I will forgive their wickednesses and remember their sins no more." (CJB)

Many don't seem to realize that Jeremiah 31:30-34 is NOT talking about "Gentiles" or "Christians"; it says God is going to make a "new covenant" with the Torah observant Houses of Israel and Judah! So, where are "Christians" in this? As "grafted in to the Olive Tree" Christians are "one in Messiah" (Galatians 3:28)...But that never meant Gentiles would get to change the rules or live under separate rules. YHWH was clear about that!

(See also Numbers 15:13 -16, above….)

So, please be SURE to notice with WHOM He made His “New Covenant” – it wasn’t with the Gentiles!  It was with the TORAH OBSERVANT Houses of Israel and Judah!

Where do we EVER see YHWH making any covenants with GENTILES?  (Remember, the term “Gentiles” originally referred to the pagan nations which YHWH often ordered to be wiped out in Torah!)

And by the way, everyone, right from the beginning with Adam and Eve on down, was TORAH OBSERVANT - and NONE of them were "Jews"!  There were no "Jews" until Jacob had a son named Yehudah (Judah) where the term "Jew" and the Tribe of Judah originated. Adam and Eve weren't "Jews"; and neither were Cain and Abel or our forefathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob! Yet, they were ALL "Torah observant" - meaning, they obeyed God as He continued to coach and teach His people throughout the millennia.

As for Hosea 9, let’s take a look at it IN CONTEXT:

Hosea 9: Don’t rejoice, Isra’el! Don’t enjoy yourselves as other peoples do; for you have gone whoring away from your God, you love being hired as a whore on every grain-floor.2 Threshing-floor and winepress won’t feed them, and new wine will disappoint her.3 They won’t remain in  the land of ADONAI; instead, Efrayim will return to Egypt,and they will eat unclean food in Ashur. 4 They will not pour out wine offerings to ADONAI; they will not be pleasing to him.
Their sacrifices will be for them like mourners’ food — everyone eating it will be polluted.
For their food will be merely to satisfy their appetite; it will not come into the house of ADONAI.
5 What will you do at a designated time, on a day which is a festival for ADONAI? (CJB)

Hmmm – where does it say YHWH hated His OWN FESTIVALS?  This is all about how ANGRY He is with Israel for constantly straying away from Him.  Since they did that, what good did it do to bother with His mo’edim?

Hosea 9:17 confirms this:

Hosea 9:17 My God will cast them aside, because they wouldn’t listen to him, and they will become wanderers among the Goyim. (CJB)

HELLO!?! "Because they wouldn’t LISTEN to him..."  This whole chapter is about the fact that YHWH is UPSET with Israel for constantly straying.  He doesn’t once suggest that His own, commanded Feast times were bad!  (If He did, then that would suggest that YHWH is capable of making mistakes….

NUMBER 4:

It was Israel's "treacherous sister Judah (the Jews) who continued in the festivals and celebrations..." after the Father put an end to them (Jeremiah 3:10). They bound themselves to an oath and entered into a curse in order to continue in a corrupt law (Nehemiah 10:28,29). This is why the feast days are called "Jewish Festivals" (John 2:13; 5:1; 6:4), and not Israel's Festivals. Jeremiah prophesied that, “At that time [when the NEW COVENANT is established-Jer. 31:31] young women will dance and be glad. Young men and old will join in the celebration. I will turn their mourning into gladness. I will give them comfort and joy in the place of their sorrow", {Jeremiah 31:13}.

MY RESPONSE:

Could this woman get any MORE anti-Semitic?  She constantly refers to “the Jews” as if it’s a dirty word!

“They entered into a curse in order to continue in a corrupt law???”  Oh yes, YHWH’s Divine Instructions in Righteousness, according to this Christian anti-Semite, was HORRIBLE – so awful that He HATED His own rules and abolished them - just to please the Christians who apparently have to do NOTHING except "believe in Jesus?" 

To find the actual context of that passage, please read that whole passage on our blog.

Again, the New Covenant was NOT made with Gentiles or Christians because “Jesus” didn’t come to bring “Christianity” or any other NEW “religion”.  As shown above, YESHUA came to proclaim the Kingdom and do everything His Father commanded!

NUMBER FIVE:

Jesus/Yeshua instituted the LAST FEAST DAY and said, “Do this as often as you will in remembrance of Me.” If any man be in Christ Jesus, he is a NEW CREATURE, the OLD THINGS (Old Law) are passed away and behold ALL THINGS, are become new.”

MY RESPONSE:

WHAT “last feast day”?  NONE of YHWH's Seven Mo'edim/Feast Times suggest the phrase “Do this as often as you will in remembrance of Me.”  ALL the Feast Days were established in Leviticus, NOT in the “New Testament”…  They are outlined here in our website's article.

NUMBER SIX:

The Messiah’s doctrine is the Bread of Life, and his Spirit is the Wine of Salvation. We must seek the transmutation of the natural into the Spiritual. If we don’t eat His Body (doctrine/bread) and drink of His Blood (spirit/wine), we cannot have eternal life. What is His body/doctrine? The New Covenant, the Gospel (Glad tidings of comfort and joy!) And What is His blood/spirit? LOVE (goodwill towards men) that brings forth Salvation. And THIS is why we celebrate CHRISTos/MAShiach (ChristMas) Day; the Day of the Anointed One in remembrance of Him!

MY RESPONSE:

How ironic that she contradicts herself by saying, “If we don’t eat His Body (doctrine/bread) and drink of His Blood (spirit/wine), we cannot have eternal life” – when all of her comments above speak AGAINST keeping YHWH’s Divine Instructions … which were first written in the TORAH and then reiterated in the New Testament! (Not the other way around….)

His “body/doctrine” she suggests is “eternal life”... EVERYTHING Yeshua said and taught came straight from TORAH, not from something “Jesus” made up in “New Covenant” times.

The last couple of sentences are totally bizarre, because they’re complete FICTION!

“And What is His blood/spirit? LOVE (goodwill towards men) that brings forth Salvation. And THIS is why we celebrate CHRISTos/MAShiach (ChristMas) Day; the Day of the Anointed One in remembrance of Him!”

You won’t find ONE SCRIPTURE to support that – NOT ONE!

Unfortunately, people like this have followers who blindly believe their concocted theology.  Let's pray that YHWH will open the eyes of those mired in "New Testament" only doctrines and give them the desire to start READING the Bible instead of just listening to someone pontificating opinions on Facebook.