ANTI-MISSIONARY COMMENT: “When a girl who is a maiden is engaged to a husband, and a man finds her in the city and lies with her, then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city, and shall stone them to death with stones, the girl because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he has humbled his neighbour’s wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from your midst.” (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)
This is a pretty clear cut command from God. But a person is expected to believe that if God "overshadows" her – as in your fake Josef and Mary story - it's ok? Why would a Holy and just God go against his own command??? Lots of folks dance around this one but I just cannot.
AUTHOR AND ARAMAIC SCHOLAR Andrew Gabriel Roth responds:
Well Maryam wasn't raped as the Talmud falsely alleges. There was no Roman soldier named Pandira here okay? Toldot Yeshu is way too late to be of value. You elevate it while you deny 1st century evidence about the importance of the Gospels and their original Aramaic versions? Have you read Josephus? He mentions Y'shua--and NOT just in the "Testimonium" which I agree has problems. He mentions "Ya'akkov (James) the brother of Yeshua who was called the Mashiyach" being killed in the year 62. You should focus on primary sources from the period and see what they say.
Again, Maryam was NOT raped. There was nothing to cry out from. She said, "I am Thy handmaiden. LET IT BE DONE ACCORDING TO THY WORD." What WORD? Not just YHWH speaking thru the malak Gavriel. According to TNK, you say? Let's look at TNK. There is nothing miraculous about a young woman conceiving (Is 7:14) and what Rabbinics never deal with is the fact that every single pre-common era translation of the Hebrew (LXX and Aramaic, yes there was an Aramaic Tanakh and I don't mean the Targumim) interpreted ALMAH there as VIRGIN. It's only AFTER the controversy that the truth was downplayed. So you talk about what we don't deal with? Why not deal with THAT? Rivka is called an ALMAH in Genesis and was a virgin.
But beyond that you have forgotten Zechariah. In chapter 3 he tells us Yehoshua ben Yehozadak and his men are symbols of people and things to come. In 6:12 we are told Yehoshua is the man "whose name is the Branch (compare to Jeremiah 23:5-6, Isaiah 11:1-2), and in 12:9, YHWH is clearly speaking and in the next verse says "They will look on...ET ASHER DAKARU" (towards Me have pierced they)" but they mourn FOR HIM, "as a YACHID son"--only begotten. YHWH is not pierced and does not die on a cross or any other way. He doesn't bleed either. But He has SHARED HIS ONE NATURE with His Son and ONLY His Son who is His Arm (Ex. 6:6, Is 53:1) AND HAS HIS NAME IN HIM TO FORGIVE SIN (Ex 23:20-22).
I can tell you virtually the entire story of Y'shua without touching the NT even once. YHWH is ONE. We do not bow down to "god men" in our faith. Y'shua taught the Shema and died for Torah and Israel. He said, "If you believed Moshe, you would believe me".
The bottom line is this: YHWH predicted Maryam would be overshadowed in the same breath that he predicted Isaiah would have a son. This is an embedded prophecy with a short branch of 65 years and a much longer branch that goes into our time. That however is a long story….
And finally, you can trace the proof of this to Genesis 3:15. It is THE SEED OF THE WOMAN who crushes the serpent's head, meaning that the man's seed is NOT involved with he who crushes that serpent. ONLY THE WOMAN. ONLY A VIRGIN. ONLY BY YHWH's direct prophecy.
Blessed be the Torah through whose promises we have been given Y'shua our Master. Baruch hashem YHWH!