tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5193745359560427451.post2164975688884155571..comments2024-03-28T17:07:27.195-07:00Comments on The Refiner's Fire Blog: Challenging: “Why The Jews Don’t Believe In Jesus…And Never Will”Carmenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14998146626031186940noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5193745359560427451.post-56758958277902324622014-11-25T18:25:09.409-08:002014-11-25T18:25:09.409-08:00You are so right. They don't want the True Mes...You are so right. They don't want the True Messiah Y'shua. They would rather believe a lie!! It is come down to one thing. The Return of ..... YHWH I am prepred.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06799495833122786263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5193745359560427451.post-19292274506372481552014-11-19T09:26:21.527-08:002014-11-19T09:26:21.527-08:00The above comments by Rabbi Tovia Singer of Outrea...The above comments by Rabbi Tovia Singer of Outreach Judaism shows just how far traditional Jews will go to deny Yeshua! Notice first of all that, in order to keep the world's Savior a "Christian myth", Singer refuses to use His given, Hebrew Name which means YHWH is Salvation....<br /><br />Question: If YHWH created the universe and everything in it, including mankind who was created from dust, why can't He present an aspect of Himself in human form, especially since He's done it before (Genesis 3:8, 18:1-3)?<br /><br />Rabbi Singer is correct in suggesting God never demanded a human sacrifice. But there is no Torah prohibition against martyrs - which is what Y'shua was! He was a human martyr who had a divine qnoma/nature. However, while we weren't supposed to offer human sacrifices, YHWH - as our Elohim and Almighty and Creator of the entire universe - certainly can do anything He wants! And what the Bible clearly shows He planned on doing (as evidenced throughout the Tanach, and specifically in Isaiah 53 and in the Biblical Feasts) was to send us a Messiah who would carry out His Word to the letter. And that Messiah chose to martyr Himself....as a sin OFFERING!<br /><br />According to a footnote in the Aramaic English New Testament:<br /><br />Offerings "qurbana" and sacrifices "dabekha" are two different entities. Although there are certain aspects to Mashiyach's death that are utterly unique to him (Zechariah 12:10, etc.), his death nevertheless echoes aspects of offerings and sacrifices that came before. The qurbana is the human life (nefesh) that Y'shua voluntarily offers up on the stake. The result of that offering is his blood put out on the "altar"; hence dabekha.<br /><br />However, this is certainly not, as some critics suggest, human sacrifice. Rather, this indicates Y'shua's status as Mashiyach ben Yoseph. Per strict accordance with Isaiah 53 and Genesis 22:8, Mashiyach ben Yoseph was required to suffer and die. After his death, the offering of himself became a sacrifice that was taken up, and he was resurrected three days later. Many of YHWH's prophets also suffered and were martyred at the hands of those who fought against the Malchut Elohim. In the case of Mashiyach, his shed blood is counted as the acceptable offering, the Lamb of YHWH, which is most Set Apart unto YHWH.<br /><br />Deuteronomy 18:18-19: I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen, like you (Moses), and I will put My words in his mouth, and he shall speak all that I command him. And it shall come about that whoever will not listen to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him.<br /><br />YHWH sent us a DIVINE Offering in the form of Yeshua, the Torah observant Messiah in a human "shell", who was an aspect of YHWH sent to Earth in a form with which we could identify - as opposed to talking through a burning bush (Exodus 3:1-5), appearing to Abraham in human form/"three men" at the Oaks of Mamre (Genesis 18:1-2;17; Isaiah 48:12,16) or speaking through a donkey (Numbers 22 and 23). Yeshua was to teach us about YHWH, to show us how we were to worship YHWH, and how to live together according to His desires; and then to offer Himself - the Divine Entity who raised the dead, walked on water and turned water into wine - as the Final Sin Offering.<br /><br />Yeshua did exactly what the Torah Scriptures predicted. What more could be asked of Him? Isaiah 53 and Daniel 9 both predict the death of Messiah and His resurrection. And Zechariah tells us something very interesting about the Messiah's return:<br /><br />Zechariah 12: 10 "And I (YHWH) will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him, like the bitter weeping over a firstborn."Carmenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14998146626031186940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5193745359560427451.post-45846673419551830952014-11-19T09:26:11.648-08:002014-11-19T09:26:11.648-08:00Thanks for your comment! Yes, it's sad to kno...Thanks for your comment! Yes, it's sad to know that most traditional Jews (and their converts who have rejected Y'shua!) will only engage in conversation about Him "from a distance" - meaning, they purposely hold Him at bay, and rarely ever bother to call Him by His REAL Name! They INSIST on referring to Him as "Jesus"...WHY? Because Jesus doesn't mean anything; but Y'shua means "Yah is Salvation" or "Yah Saves." If you distance yourself from that, then it makes it a lot easier to reject Him!<br /><br />The biggest reason for rejecting Him is because they view Him as a "human sacrifice" - which is way off base as we have outlined in our article at http://www.therefinersfire.org/yeshuas_blood.htm which says, in part: (Continued in a second comment, because there are only so many characters allowed.)<br /><br />Carmenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14998146626031186940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5193745359560427451.post-83471091280939593772014-11-19T06:26:48.252-08:002014-11-19T06:26:48.252-08:00Thank you for this post Sister Shali. It is sad to...Thank you for this post Sister Shali. It is sad to think that there are Jews out there trying to prove that Y'shua is not the Messiah. It reminds me of what happened (what i saw in the movie) when Y'shua was crucified, He came down to earth and He gave His life for the sinner like me but the Pharisees and Rabbis were trying to disprove Him. I'm not sure why Y'shua's death on the stake was not enough for these "teachers" to understand. Anyway, in Revelation 14 says "This is when perseverance is needed on the part of God’s people, those who observe his commands and exercise Yeshua’s faithfulness." I hope these words are enough for them to believe in Y'shua. Shalom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com