Thursday, October 30, 2014

Responding to a Christian's barbs



Someone on a Christian blog designed to bash Torah observance, recently challenged us with the following comment:

“Deal with this, Law Keeper! The truth is that the Living God made His Better New Covenant with Israel AND the Nations, aka Gentiles, as it is written in Jeremiah 31:31-34; Hebrews 8; John 1:10-13; John 3:14-18; Isaiah 65:1-2; Romans 10:20-21; Romans 11:11-12; Revelation 7:1-10; Ephesians 2. Does this offend you?

Our response:  Nope, it doesn’t offend us at all.  What offends us is the fact that you don’t have a good grasp of Scripture and yet feel you’re qualified to lead us astray with your “New Testament only” mindset! Perhaps it would interest you to know that YHWH never, ever made ANY covenants with the Gentiles – let alone a “better covenant!”  As a matter of fact, the first time we ever hear the term “Gentiles” is in Micah 4:2.  

Micah 4:2 Many Gentiles will go and say, "Come, let's go up to the mountain of ADONAI, to the house of the God of Ya'akov! He will teach us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths." For out of Tziyon will go forth Torah, the word of ADONAI from Yerushalayim.  (CJB) 

 

Gentiles is synonymous with PAGAN – because that’s what people who had not accepted YHWH as their God were!  If you’ll remember, YHWH ordered the pagans killed while the Israelites were in the desert for 40 years!  Why?  Because He didn’t want HIS people becoming infected with pagan ways!  (So, honestly, why would He ultimately change His mind and make a covenant with those who were steeped in paganism – worshiping “other gods” and doing their own thing?)  

Google the word “Pagan” in Bible Study Tools for a true wake-up call, so you can see how YHWH feels about people who refuse HIS commands!  And also take a look at the following scripture and ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you if this doesn’t remind you of yourself – after all, whom are you worshiping, since you can’t even be bothered to keep God’s commanded Seventh Day Sabbath or His feast days?

2 Kings 17:33 They both feared ADONAI and served their own gods in the manner customary among the nations from which they had been taken away. 34 To this day they continue to follow their former [pagan] customs. They do not fear ADONAI. They do not follow the regulations, rulings, Torah or mitzvah which ADONAI ordered the descendants of Ya'akov, to whom he gave the name Isra'el, 35 with whom ADONAI had made a covenant and charged them, "Do not fear other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them.  (CJB)

 

So, let’s discuss that “better covenant” He supposedly made with the Gentiles, according to you:  If you are referring to Jeremiah 31:31-33, you’d better buy yourself some new glasses and learn to read because in there He speaks of making His NEW covenant with His Torah observant Houses of Israel and Judah!  There’s not one word about “Gentiles” in that entire passage….

Let’s take a look at some of those NT scriptures you posted, and read them IN CONTEXT:

Romans 10:20 And Yesha’yahu was bold, and said: I was seen by those who did not seek me out; and I was found by those who did not ask after me.  21. But to Israel, he said: All the day have I stretched out my hands to a contentious and disobedient people. (AENT)

If you are suggesting that we Torah observant people aren’t seeking Yeshua, then you clearly have no clue what Torah observance is all about!  We suggest you read our ChristianQuestionnaire and educate yourself.   If anybody is “contentious and disobedient” it’s Christians, who can’t even be bothered to keep the Seventh Day Sabbath which is a SIGN between YHWH and His people;   let alone bother with His commanded Festivals/mo’edim.  
 

Romans 11:11 But I say: Have they so stumbled as to fall entirely? May it never be! Rather, by their stumbling, life has come to the Gentiles for (awakening) their jealousy.  12. And if their stumbling was riches to the world, and their condemnation riches to the Gentiles; how much more is their perfection?  (AENT)

If you are suggesting that because “the Jews” were so stupid and disobedient, that God replaced His “chosen” with you Gentiles, we highly suggest you re-read the entire Bible which is about HIS Torah observant people (which you, sir, are clearly NOT!)  We suggest you start realizing that Yeshua didn’t bring any religion called “Christianity” wherein people would be relieved of any personal responsibility to OBEY God!

Final thoughts:  For those who insist TORAH is not for the "church today" we ask you to explain why you  claim Deuteronomy 28:1-4, but disregard 15-68; and we wonder why you don't claim Deuteronomy 27:26…and yet you claim Psalms 141:1-2, but disregard Proverbs 28:9….

Proverbs 28:9 If a person will not listen to Torah, even his prayer is an abomination.  CJB

1 comment:

  1. Amen sister Tell it like it is!!! They love to pick and choose scripture!

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